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Msg.ID: 26875
From: Didaskalos
About: Re: THE BOTTOM LINE
At: 2004-07-16 11:30:15

C3 was not outcashing C1, nor did C3 have more figs than us. Even after
the fiasco of Wednesday (doc fusing, several #SD# we still had 53% of
the V screen figs to your 43% or so. Our red alignment was 2000 behind
you guys, and you guys had shitty shitty ports, while we had great
ports. Stop being like space ghost and stating things as fact when you
have no idea what the reality is. outcashing the other corps with ease.
laugh. you can only do that when you know what the hell you're you
doing. and you guys didn't.

-----Original Message-----
From: Res Judicata [mailto:twgsdotorg@twgs.org]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 10:06 AM
To: Brian Johnston
Subject: [twgsdotorg] Re: THE BOTTOM LINE

Trep I pretty much agree with the bulk of your post, however, I wish to
comment on 2 points.

You said:

3. Sub-space Controversy - I think Hoggie outlined what went down. That
isn't foul play, that is a series of screwups on the part of C3 that was
subsequently taken advantage of - as it should have been.
>
> And btw, while we're on this topic... let's not forget that Timbo
from C3 bolded proclaimed "THE GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT IS OFF!" after the
first day of "controversy."
>
> So frankly, even if everyone in the game started running a subspace
scanner (which wasn't the case) after that proclamation, they would have
been well within their rights to do so.
>

There is a whole lot more going on besides mistakes made by corp 3.
There is a concerted effort of treachery from someone.

OZ was caught twice on SUB, obviously our corp knew all about the FIRST
SS being said on FED.
WE dealth with it. However, our sub was compromised each day of the 6
days total in BG.

No way to prove it unless the eaters involved pee on themselves and
TELL.

SO with that sad, I'll comment on this last part of your POST TREP.

You said:

5. To the Quitters - if you want to abandon your corpies and those who
have invested time & effort on your team, that decision is clearly
yours.
>
> If you feel that the chatter & debate on this game has influenced
your pyschi to the point that you just can't carry on (whimper whimper),
quit by all means.
>
> If you feel you don't have the mental stamina and fortitude to
continue playing a game because of some setbacks or because you feel the
other teams weren't being "nice" - this isn't the game for you anyways.
>
> After all... it's much easier to quit and blame others than it is to
just gut it out and work your ass off.
>
> Sometimes that seems like a statement applicable to society in
general these days as well, I'm sad to say.
>
> I don't know if C1 will win or lose this game. But I can guarantee
one thing - thick or thin, I would never and will never quit on my team
mates.

I laughed earlier when you mentioned QUITING, but with all thats been
said and DONE, I wont play with Treacherous elements involved in a game
that have compromised our SS and corp in general.

Too much hate involved and I guess I can raise my hand there I have
egged shit like this on for years myself.
But what went down in BG3 was intentional and with malice and prolly
directed at Res, thats me, and prolly Blue Adept.

What I find funny is that many many scripts that are shared out which
make poor use of SS and even SPAM SS....

I am not saying scanning SS is cheating, I am saying GIVING OUR CORP
INFO to Sabotage it is unacceptable.
I dont think its a skill to obtain a enemy subspace with a script.
Its not a crime either.

Trep I dont appreciate your comment about its much easier to quit blah
blah.
You cant say for certain Sabotage did not take place, from my
perspective, c3 sub was betrayed daily and often with purpose of
destroying c3.
About being nice and not attacking someone is ridulous I thought more of
you trep, but your attempt at humor fails to reach me.
No fucking way I'd continue to play while being CHEATED.

So we come down to SCREWING CORPIES, corp 3 would do better to log on to
a dif game and play/learn, then to continue in bg3 when elements in the
game are cheating.

Our corp in bg3 did work its ass off, and we were out-cashing either of
the other 2 corps with ease.
If our corp was not cheated, I Dont think c1 or c2 had a chance of out
cashing us.

TradeWars and this ah..community are a great example of why people need
to be CONTROLLED.
ONE WORLD ORDER works for me...

Res Judicata